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Windows 10, 'System' process taking massive amounts of RAM?

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Since I upgraded to Windows 10, my system has been consuming RAM excessively

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I've been reading a bit and determined it's likely a driver leaking memory. So I got myself the Windows Driver Kit and tracked memory usage with poolmon:

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However, I don't really know how to proceed from here. Is the item tagged "smNp" the culprit in this issue? How do I go from there to actually identifying the driver?

I tried some stuff like "C:\Windows\System32\drivers>findstr /s smnp ." but it returned no results. I also took a look at the pooltag.txt file and this is the description I found for it:

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So yeah, any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

asked Oct 19, 2016 by Nayncore  

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By going into services.msc (via Win+R) and disabling Superfetch completely solves this. I am not sure if Superfetch is just broken as of now or it's "by design".

In addition, apparently getting rid of the paging file will have the same effect but the above solution is a safer bet.

answered Oct 19, 2016 by den  
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I've looked at xperf traces of several users and here the function ntoskrnl.exe!SmKmStoreHelperWorker of the Kernel starts to allocate memory.

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I discovered this on sysinternals.

I've asked Microsoft about it and the answer is that this is by design. It is related to System Memory compression.

In the announcement of Windows 10 Build 10525, Microsoft explained it a bit:

In Windows 10, we have added a new concept in the Memory Manager called a compression store, which is an in-memory collection of compressed pages. This means that when Memory Manager feels memory pressure, it will compress unused pages instead of writing them to disk. This reduces the amount of memory used per process, allowing Windows 10 to maintain more applications in physical memory at a time. This also helps provide better responsiveness across Windows 10. The compression store lives in the System process’s working set. Since the system process holds the store in memory, its working set grows larger exactly when memory is being made available for other processes. This is visible in Task Manager and the reason the System process appears to be consuming more memory than previous releases.

So instead of writing memory data to the pagefile it compresses them. And this compressed memory is shown in the System process.

Microsoft also posted more details in the inside hub. Winbeta created a article which includes more details.

Apparently, the reason for this happened to do with Microsoft choosing to suspended UWP apps when they were not in the foreground, very similar to some smartphone OS management. Windows 8 users understood (perhaps not) that if apps weren’t on screen, they wouldn’t run until the user switched back to them. The ‘all or nothing’ approach is being updated with Windows 10 introducing a layer between the pagefile and normal paging activity. Now, when faced with memory pressure issues, MM will determine which pages should be moved to the modified list in a process called trimming. The modified list is a secondary list of pagefiles backing up a list of standby pagefiles. A backup list is captured in case memory is reclaimed from the standby list by another process, and the original process comes looking for its page. Instead of all or nothing, Windows 10 MM will compress unused pages rather than writing them to disk. With less writing, the result should be fewer disk operations – thanks to the compression – and now more data can be stored in memory.

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According to the Windows team, “In practice, compressed memory takes up about40% of the uncompressed size, and as a result of a typical device running a typical workload, Windows 10 writes pages out to disk only 50% as often as previous versions of the OS.” If all goes according to plan, Windows users could be experiencing reduced waiting times for all devices as well as extended lifespans on systems that have flash-based hard drives.

Decompression is also something Windows 10 is designed to do well. Windows 10 is using the combination of parallelizability and sequential reads to produce pages into memory once called. The new decompression should result in a speedier experience as Windows 10 is simultaneously decompressing data and reading it in parallel using multiple CPUs. Older versions of Windows may have felt sluggish because of the transfer rates between the disk.

Microsoft also released a Video on channel9 which explains the feature.

Memory Compression in Windows 10 RTM
https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Seth-Juarez/Memory-Compression-in-Windows-10-RTM

In this video Mehmet Iyigun spent some time discussing why the System process in Windows 10 is taking a bit more memory and why it's a good thing. A process taking more memory sounds like a bad thing - that is until I understood more about memory management, paging, and hard / soft page faults. Turns out that that the OS is doing some clever optimizations that allow your processes to trim some of the memory but not necessarily page it out to disk. Not only is the memory preserved in RAM, but it is also compressed - making hard page faults a more rare occurrence. The results should make for a snappier experience.

In the latest TH2 Builds, Microsoft updated the description in the task manager and now also shows that the SYSTEM process hosts the compressed memory:

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to avoid confusions about the "high" usage.

In the Window 10 Anniversary Update which will be released later in 2016, Microsoft extracted the Memory Compression into an own entry in task manager to no longer confuse users why SYSTEM has such a large memory usage:

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In the Taskmgr the amount of compressed memory is now also shown in the overview:

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If you hover over the used memory graph in Taskmgr you see a tooltip that shows the amout of data that are compressed.

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In this demo 388MB are compressed to 122MB so 267MB are saved with the compression.

answered Oct 19, 2016 by magicandre1981  
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